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Appreciations 11 Months, 4 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Greetings to all who made this outstanding collections of Earthlings video.
If i could explain my thoughts about this shocking video in my language,Farsi,i could write a book about it.Unfortunately those who realize the main purpose of it are not very much.I watched it again and again and cried many times...most of the times i ask God "Why you made us as Human Beings?!!" and then there is no answer at all.I did not find the answer in any religion ... just i know in Brahman branch of Hindus teasing animals and eating their meat are prohibited.
Anyway,i am making many CD s of the downloaded video and giving them free to every body i know.Hope the number of people who think as you and me be larger and larger...I really enjoyed the article narrated by Joaquin Phoenix who has said it with all his humanity senses....wish to express my highest appreciation to all who contributed to make this Great video and more over to dear Shaun Monson.......best regards,Mohamad Kamrani ... a sad Earthling from a strange country Iran !
 
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Re:Appreciations 11 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 4  
Hey Mohamad!

I’m so glad to read that Earthlings is becoming a world-wide phenomenon, and that humans everywhere are becoming aware of how unjust our relationship with other animals is!

I’m sure that more and more humans are now re-considering and willing to change both, they way we see other animals, as well as our own habits that can only be fulfilled by enslaving, exploiting and killing them.

Let’s keep on spreading the word!

Samuel.

PS: In regards to religion, I’ve read one or two things about Jainism and Taoism that seem to be quite positive – nonviolence seems to be really important, and I think they promote vegetarianism, and many of their followers are now realizing the need for veganism, and not just vegetarianism! You might wanna check on those.

In any case, there’s always the wonderful Atheist choice, free-from non-answering gods, and full of answer-seeking reason!
 
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Veganism is simply the acknowledgment that a replaceable and fleeting pleasure isn\'t more valuable than someone\'s life and liberty.
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Re:Appreciations 11 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Hi Samuel
Thanks a lot for replying to my note,here in my country there are many people who feed birds and stray dogs and cats and love animals.I think almost all animals are much better than us,i mean as human kind.I always say they are lovely angels of God.Yesterday i made 12 CD s of "earthlings" video and gave them free to my friends and workmates.About Atheism i should see what that is.My son had told me a bit about that and he believes it.Thanks again,best wishes and regards,Mohamad.
 
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Re:Appreciations 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 4  
Hi, Mohamad!

Sorry for taking long to reply.

You are right that many humans do feel empathy and love for other animals. Sadly, this is usually a 'selective' empathy and love that applies only for some species.

As Kenneth Cassar (an abolitionist vegan advocate) wrote in his blog:
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It is only our speciesist mentality that makes a distinction between animals whom we feel entitled to use and abuse, and even murder, and other animals whom we paternalistically assign the purpose of being companions or pets.


We arbitrarily assign status to some animals, and consider them "lovely", and at the same time considering equally sentient animals as 'food', or 'transport', etc.

This is quite an inconsistent and quite odd behavior on our part.

BTW, I was re-watching this video last night, and thought you might like it.
http://www.veganvideo.org

Regards,

Samuel.

PS: Oh, and Atheism isn't really something one 'believes', but rather, a lack of belief (in this case, a lack of belief in deities, or other supernatural powers/characters.) Here's another video you might wanna check, this time about Atheism:

Sam Harris on Atheism
 
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Veganism is simply the acknowledgment that a replaceable and fleeting pleasure isn\'t more valuable than someone\'s life and liberty.
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Re:Appreciations 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Atheism is even a bit more than that. It's goal is the person achieves complete _independence_ and can use common sense to work our real problems, even those that are affecting society by not looking in an old book but making thoughts and decisions _on your own_.

I have seen people rely too much on God himself and do then completely nothing but hope! for the best.
This is simply not enough. God or anyone else will not do changes you want to do. You have to do them yourself.

It is religion's goal to completely subdue and control! people. It is not about you or God, it is about influence and power.

They know it and they will fight for it. People are simply to scared to do actions.
 
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Re:Appreciations 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Hi again Samuel
I will watch those lectures of Sam Harris,thanks for sending the link.About selective love to some kind of animals you are right.Here in Iran about 60 years ago a writer whose name is Sadegh Hedayat has written a book named " The benefits of Vegetarianism",i was reading it few days ago... it is very interesting that he has written almost all parts of earthling video on his book,he was a vegetarian and never ate meat.He is a very famous writer in Iran,and it is interesting that he did not believe a religion,perhaps he was Atheist.Thanks a lot again,good luck and best wishes and regards,Mohamad.
 
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